Why the best ideas start as side projects
Priya Nair on building a 40-person design studio from a weekend hobby — and why she still protects time for projects that might go nowhere.
Co-host and producer
Jordan spent eight years as a radio journalist before founding two startups — one that failed loudly and one that sold quietly. He started Podcast to have the conversations he wishes someone had recorded for him when he was 25 and unsure what to do next.
Jordan Hayes spent eight years as a radio journalist, filing stories from city council meetings, county fairs and, once, the inside of a grain silo. He learned early that the best tape comes from the second question, not the first.
After radio he co-founded two startups. The first, a local events marketplace, burned through its seed round in fourteen months and closed with a long, honest email to customers that Jordan still re-reads. The second, a scheduling tool for independent clinics, grew slowly, stayed profitable and was acquired by a larger healthcare software company in 2022.
Somewhere between those two companies Jordan realised that the most useful advice he had ever received came from long, unhurried conversations — not from keynote talks or threads. Podcast is his attempt to record those conversations and share them with anyone who needs them.
Jordan produces every episode, from guest research to the final mix. He is the one who insists on recording locally on both ends, and the one who cuts his own questions shorter in the edit.
Off the mic, he runs early, cooks badly and is slowly working through every book a guest has ever recommended on the show.
Priya Nair on building a 40-person design studio from a weekend hobby — and why she still protects time for projects that might go nowhere.
Daniel Okafor explains why he bootstrapped his logistics software company to $8M in revenue instead of taking venture capital.
Novelist Marcus Lee on routine, rejection and the 3,000-word mornings that produced four books and one very large drawer of drafts.
Engineering leader Theo Grant shares the one-on-one format he uses with 60 engineers, and why most feedback fails before the first sentence.
Creator Amara Osei on what it really takes to earn a living from an audience — and why the numbers look different from the famous essay.
Newsletter writer Lucas Meyer on the spreadsheet, the savings and the subscriber milestone that told him it was time to go independent.
Five lessons from three years of recording — about silence, follow-up questions and why the best answers come after the official end.
Longer episodes, a new live format for members and a mini-series on money. A look at what's next for the show.
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